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Poster: Daddy D Date: Aug 2, 2010 6:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

POLL:

If FURTHER were playing at the north end of town, and Dark Star Orchestra (or whomever your favorite Grateful Dead cover band currently is), was playing 5 miles away on the other side of town, which band would you go see?

I've listened to a couple recent FURTHER shows on archive, shows where everyone's rating the show 5 stars & saying how the music was so fantastic, & I've got to say, I just don't get it . . .

God bless The Grateful Dead & all the surviving members. Some of my best memories I owe to them, & I truly wish each of them the best. But that said, there's no shame in knowing when it's time to step down. Not trying to be intentionally cruel or harsh, just how I see it.

Then again, if I were walking in their shoes, & 10s of thousands of people were willing to buy tickets to see me & cheer & clap at every song, no doubt I'd probably feel differently . . .

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Aug 2, 2010 8:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

grapes and raisins and asparagus....there really is no comparison....listen to Max Creek!

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Poster: vapors Date: Aug 2, 2010 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

I went to a Furthur show back in February, and I must be getting old because although I think the music had it’s moments, I guess I have had enough of the big scene. Give me DSO in a venue with space to dance.

(Saw Umphrey’s McGee last night for the first time – now that was something to keep me young!!!)

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Aug 3, 2010 7:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

I guess , I have to vote Further . Some of the jams I have heard are great .
But, I am not totally sold on John K. Not that he isn't good, and tonally , I like him better than a lot of the post-Jerry guys , but I don't find him totally engrossing , that way a certain someone was . Trey would , for his guitar, be my choice ( and I am not a huge Phish fan ). Ironically, because this band sounds more like the GD, it makes it more uncomfortable , at times . John's voice is too Jerry like , and frankly not too distinctive , to me .
But Garcia is gone, and I think this is pretty good .

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 2, 2010 8:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

Furthur. No contest -- it's Phil and Bob.

Though that also means it would come with more emotional baggage; all the anxieties about whether it would still be good (much like seeing the band in the 90s, emotionally speaking.) Now that would be enhanced by the latest news on Bob, which was disturbing to read, though I couldn't pull up the YouTube clip (mercifully, perhaps) cuz of my internet speed issues right now. Hope all is well with him and it was just a fluke, or the flu, or the result of some twerp secretly dosing him as rumored ... I tried hard to get to that 7/28 show, and now I'm really glad I didn't see it.

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Poster: buscameby Date: Aug 2, 2010 9:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

As much as I thought the Broomfield shows in March were outstanding, I liked the Phil, Warren and Jimmy shows the best. And let me not be remiss in leavin out Rob and the great Molo on the drums.

I would also like to give props to Joan, I thought when she sang the best vocals were best when she was present. Jackie added a lot to the vocal experience too.

But don't let the playing of these great tunes stop, keep on truckin till it gets to a new level and the Furthur still, doesn't have to be "better" just let the muse decide.

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Poster: Hal R Date: Aug 4, 2010 12:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

Furthur, but neither is going to be playing in this town. Maybe DSO again. Now if you said Umphreys McGhee or Gov't Mule, or Steve Kimock I would have a hard time picking. Saw Furthur in Portland in March and had a great time. Will go see them again if they come near.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 2, 2010 9:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

I'd pay 5 to 10 to see the new band playing their original songs in the small club and leave the oldies circuit to my next visit to the fairgrounds.

When's WILCO coming back to town?

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Poster: pjcenedella Date: Aug 3, 2010 12:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

wilco! thats what im talking about.

there touring europe and asia or some shit like that. they'll be back not soon enough.

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Poster: myrtlewood Date: Aug 6, 2010 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

I was chewing gum for something to do, hand shake drugs! too bad wilco doesn't tour the way the dead did.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 6, 2010 9:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

they are out there pretty regular, but don't do that many multi-night stands (yet). Also, they do hit Europe quite a bit on each tour.

also, they need to update the roadcase shows at their site as I need a new fix (but three good shows there for streaming fun):
http://www.wilcoworld.net/roadcase/

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Poster: Agricola Date: Aug 3, 2010 3:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

Furthur.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 3, 2010 12:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: A Victim Of Circumstance

For me: neither.

Further (or even The Dead for that matter) is like the Three Stooges without Curly...no offense to the other players they have (and had), who are all amazing musicians, but once Curly left, it was over for me. And like Jerry, when Curly attempted the comeback after his stroke, something was most definitely missing and it was more painful to see the unhealthy version than none at all. Now please, no one comeback at me saying "Hey, do you mean Warren is the new Shemp?" because that aint it. Bobbie is.

And DSO, well, I've already coverd the Star Trek Convention similarities so I won't go into that again.

NOTE: On reading that back it does sound a tad on the bitter side. My apologies. Bobbie isn't Shemp. I'd nominate him for Larry.

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2010-08-03 19:30:37

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 3, 2010 1:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

Hey SDH, a pleasure to be talking with you again. I'd agree with you that no other configuration of musicians could come close to replicating the flavour of the Grateful Dead. You might have the salt and vinegar of Phil and Bob but absent the spice of Jerry you have a dish that fails to satisfy.

But, you know, I don't believe the songs deserve to die, to be left preserved in some sort of sonic aspic. I applaud Phil in particular for his attempts to keep the repertoire alive through the Friends (and how I wish he'd get the fuck out of Furthur and go back to that) and I wholeheartedly endorse the likes of Jackie Greene who can take a song like New Speedway and make it totally his own while somehow, at the same time, giving full credit to the performances of the past. Got to keep the songs alive. Just got to. It's their legacy.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 3, 2010 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

Hey, I don't mean to say that the music should be shelved and made off limits to any attempt to play them. Just saying that on a personal level is isn't for me so much. As the question was related to who you'd rather see live, my answer was and is neither. This is not to say I wouldn't ever listen to Furthur or even DSO. As long as it doesn't involve any monetary commitement on my part or waiting in line with drunk hippie-wannabe's, I say let the music play.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 3, 2010 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

I realise you didn't say that. I think in large part we're agreeing with each other. I know that you're as big a Jackie Greene fan as I am - and I think we both know that the authentic Grateful Dead experience is not to be replicated, whoever happens to be playing in the band. The future isn't with the copycats but with the ones who keep on searching for the sound.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 3, 2010 2:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

What, me agree with you? I'd rather have my spleen removed by an epileptic wombat on crack.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 3, 2010 2:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

It can be arranged, you dyspeptic bozo.

:)

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Aug 3, 2010 12:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

"but once Curly left, it was over for me" That may be the funniest thing I have read this week. How old were you when Curly left?

As for the comparison to Larry, I guess I could see that as Larry did have to withstand the most painful of abuse. Seriously it was always Larry who got spread-eagled into the pole! However is was Moe who was left with the impossible task of picking up the slack of the loss of his talented brother and knowing that the unborn SDH was no longer watching. At least Shemp had some redeeming qualities. Joe was a disaster.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 3, 2010 12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

Joe Besser was the Vince Welnick of the Stooges.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 3, 2010 1:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

RAW POWER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD_XCECbAEU&;feature=related
[TV Eye]

Mike Watt > John K as far as reunion bands go....

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2010-08-03 20:18:44

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 3, 2010 1:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

Who is the anchorman ? Is he part of the Stooges ?
What kind of advertising would sponsor the Stooges in '70 ? In Cincinnati ?
And finally , how many sponsors were there ? They were gone long enough for Iggy to fall in the crowd three times , and then get up .

The Classic Iggy pose . I gotta go listen to some Stooges now .

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 3, 2010 1:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

Ron Burgundy was the anchorman.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 3, 2010 2:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

Good to see that our cultural contriubtions are not going unnoticed over there.


It's made with bits of real panther so you know its good.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 3, 2010 3:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

"Keep it classy, forumites!"

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Aug 3, 2010 8:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

the greatest frontman in the history of R&R; thanks for the classic Iggy

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 3, 2010 9:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

Did you by chance see him in Prague? With Tony Duchackek and Garag? (sorry for lack of proper spelling; I know Tony through friends in Abraxas and Dunaj).

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Aug 4, 2010 3:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Victim Of Circumstance

"Did you by chance see him in Prague?"

Did Iggy swing through CR? I know he was in Europe the years i was over there, but alas no, never did see Iggy while there; most of the music i did see was local Jazz (some very good) or Rock (not so good)

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Poster: august_wst Date: Aug 3, 2010 7:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: POLL: FURTHER vs DSO? (or insert your favorite Grateful Dead cover band here)

I can't imagine why I would pay $50 to $100 to see a Dead cover band (that's really all Furthur is when you think about it) when I could pay a fraction of that to see DSO (another Dead cover band with many more years of playing together as a cohesive group).

just my 2 cents